Something to think about.

March 1st, 2012

Things like this are happening every day.(article below) A government is looking to eliminate a sect of people. They are supposedly thousands upon thousands of terrorists. No, it couldn’t happen here, not tomorrow, and not next year. But sometimes we lose touch with this side of the 2A. You disarm the people, and they are helpless against the whims of those in power. If the 2A was erased, this type of thing *could* happen to our children’s children. The proof lies within the millions of the disarmed and dead in the second half of this century. All of us here understand the importance of self defense against criminals, but sometimes we forget of the long term ramifications of *gun control*.

From the Seattle Times
Posted at 07:32 a.m. PST; Monday, November 22, 1999

Soldiers tell darker Chechnya story
Copyright ? 1999 The Seattle Times

by Michael Slackman
Newsday
ROSTOV-ON-DON, Russia – After spending his day flooding the forest with machine-gun fire, Andrei Ustuzhaninov stepped from his tent into the cool Chechen night to smoke a cigarette. In the instant that his match flared, a sniper’s bullet whizzed through the dark, slamming into the soldier’s gut, burrowing down through his body and shattering his thigh.

After more than a month in Chechnya, that was the first contact the 20-year-old had with guerrillas.

“No, I never saw a guerrilla,” Ustuzhaninov said from his bed in a military hospital, where he spends much of the day curled on his side, trying to ease the pain.

Russia says it is after terrorists, what it calls Islamic guerrillas, and is waging a fierce military campaign aimed at annihilating them. For weeks, it has dropped hundreds of bombs and fired artillery shells, leveling villages, forcing hundreds of thousands of people to flee and killing hundreds, if not thousands, of civilians throughout the breakaway republic of Chechnya.

The Russian public is visibly joyful, uplifted by its military’s command performance, its leaders’ steely resolve and a chance to flex its atrophied national pride.

But Russian soldiers who have seen combat tell a far murkier story than the one being portrayed by the government or the flag-waving Russian media. In interviews with a dozen soldiers at military hospitals here and in the Volga River city of Samara, and with one officer who recently returned from Chechnya, the military operation appeared less successful, the military less shining and the long-term prognosis less promising than portrayed by the nation’s leadership.

Those interviewed said Russia’s offensive has managed to destroy everything in sight – except large numbers of guerrillas, who move relatively easily through a terrain they know far better than their opponents do. Russian soldiers fire their rockets, guns and artillery shells blindly into open fields, villages and forests. One officer said the official government estimate of thousands of guerrillas dead is, at best, an exaggeration, an analysis supported by the soldiers who said they saw very few, if any, dead guerrillas.

“We have accomplished nothing,” said Lt. Col. Alexander Tolmachyov, who works as a military journalist and spent several weeks in the combat zone. “There are thousands of terrorists there, but by bombing, we don’t reach any result. We have dropped enough bombs to destroy five armies, and still, we accomplish nothing.”

Russia says it is in control of the northern third of the country. The soldiers say that is technically true, but not at night, when they sit nervously in trenches or tents, fearful they will be picked off by snipers. Russia’s military is superior to the guerrillas’, with planes, helicopters and expensive rockets, but the soldiers say there is little to eat except the watery porridge they are served or the meat they butcher from cattle stolen from Chechens. They also are short of gloves, hats, blankets and other warm clothing.

On the world stage, Russia’s leaders are defiant of Western criticism toward their campaign and determined to press on. But the soldiers depict a scene of uncertainty, with the military unsure of which way to go next and whether to press on, dig in or pull back.

“The Chechens are well-equipped and ready for combat,” said Nikolai Diyanov, 19, a member of a special reconnaissance unit who was hit by shrapnel from a grenade during a firefight. “They have very powerful weapons. It is dangerous to send soldiers in. I think they should give peaceful civilians two days to get out, then bomb the rest. Just go into the air and press the button.”

When Russia invaded Chechnya in 1994, it waged a conventional war, going head-to-head with the guerrillas. It was a tactic that left tens of thousands dead and helped turn public opinion in Russia against the assault. This time, the military is avoiding close combat with the guerrillas, and relying on bombs to do most of the work is sparing soldiers’ lives. It is hard to tell exactly how many Russians have been killed because the military lists only those who died on the battlefield. Anyone who dies in the hospital remains listed as injured in action. The military also does not reveal the number of interior ministry forces who have been killed. Russia says 462 soldiers have been killed and 1,486 injured.

Nikolai Artumov, 20, is a sergeant who spent time in Chechnya working with an infantry unit responsible for “liberating” villages from terrorists. First, he said, his unit would arrange a meeting with the elders of the village and encourage them to leave before the shelling began. After a short time, he said, they would open fire with artillery, sometimes backed by aerial bombing. When the smoke cleared, they would move into town.

“There was never any opposition,” said Artumov, his hands still brown from Chechen soil and his leg, stomach and arms pitted with wounds incurred when the armored car he was in rode over a mine. “It seems strange. It was too quiet. It was suspicious.” Everyone is surprised at how little opposition the guerrillas have shown so far, leading some to think they are lying in wait.

Alexander Yudin, 19, was a farm worker before he was called into action. He is in the hospital now, the lower half of his right leg blown off by gunfire and his right elbow shattered by a bullet. Yudin worked with an artillery unit, helping to load weapons, until he volunteered for the more dangerous work of reconnaissance.

“It was our task to find groups of guerrillas,” he said, adding that it was nearly impossible, unless they were holding weapons, to distinguish between civilians and guerrillas. He said his unit was often short of bread and water, but that he supported his nation’s effort to stamp out terrorism.

“I am calm about what happened,” he said in a breathless whisper. “You know you cannot bring anything back. I am happy I was able to stay alive.”

His father, standing over his bed, arms folded and eyes red, was less philosophical. Bending over to gingerly cover his son’s bandaged stump with a sheet, he said over and over, “For what? For what has this happened?”
Copyright ? 1999 The Seattle Times